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Strange Rover
4th Sep 2005, 20:55
just a bit of a observation.....

why is it that when people ask for info on lanes to use etc they are always told about wayfinder and not given some info that relates to a OS map ?

If the routes are truly public rights of way why is the information relating to them not freely available in the public doamin, instead it seems to be a deeply gaurded secret !!!

Is there anywere that you can get free info on lanes and routes?

A lot of 4x4 websites complain about "comercials" I guess most of them are in business becasue it is so hard to find info about lanes / routes.

not exactly related, but it would help if you wanted to buy the maps to be able to do so online, OK I'm a tad lazy but buying on line via my credit card gives me re-assurance that I will not be diddled and if I am I have some come back.

jjsaul
4th Sep 2005, 21:36
cos the rest of us are too lazy to look on a map to give co-ords.

manthing
4th Sep 2005, 21:46
I supose from my POV I try and steer peeps towards the wayfinder site cos i am allready a member and find it very good for what I need.
As for a free list, not sure if such a thing exists, even the good old OS maps have a beer token levy on them( and i have bought a good few of them in my time, and still enjoy using them), how many OS maps does £25 get you?
I am tending to ask WF for a list of lanes within somany km's of point A and then transpose these, or some of them onto the os map, where you get the bigger picture.
works for me :D

as to your last point have you tried Amozon, or whsmiths online or somewhere like that for maps?

Strange Rover
4th Sep 2005, 21:51
I already have some OS maps, they come in handy for work.....

but am I right in thinking that the wayfnder stuff is a different map altogether ?

are their routes in the form of maps or just directions ?

jjsaul
4th Sep 2005, 21:55
theyre just co-ordinates which you locate on a proper map, along with user accounts and lane descriptions.

Newsreader
4th Sep 2005, 22:01
it would help if you wanted to buy the maps to be able to do so online
Do you mean, from the Ordnance Survey Online Mapshop (http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/mapshop/) for example? :)

As for stuff being available free, IMO because of the web we expect everything to be available 'free' online these days, but it's easy to forget that in order for that to happen, someone has to invest time and/or money into setting up the website, putting the info on it, keeping it up to date, dealing with queries etc.

or alternatively you can use forums like these to get info :) There are a number of thrads that do contain co-ordinates for different green lanes.

LandyV8
8th Sep 2005, 10:07
I personally recommend people to wayfinder because it is updated regularly with the current status of the lanes. With just an OS map you can scan them for public rights of way etc but that doesn’t tell you that they are passable, deeply rutted, overgrown etc. On the wayfinder site members can post there views on the lanes and give personal recommendations. I know a few lanes around north Wales’s area but I always check with wayfinder and the local councils to see if they are still legal to drive etc.

When I go laneing with people I quite often print out maps for the other vehicles so they can see the lanes we are using and so they can copy them onto there own maps. But before I joined Wayfinder, I did find it difficult to find out where lanes where and like you say, for some reason it seams to be a big secret.:D

Mike_Hammond
8th Sep 2005, 11:13
I think the best reason for keeping lanes relatively out of view in public environments such as the net is to prevent 1) overuse, if a lane is mentioned on the net everyone goes and tries it as they know nowhere else to go until they gain "the knowledge" :D and 2) the idiots who probably wouldn't be interested in joining GLASS, going out of their way to find out or going out with a club, but would happily tear up the countryside if info was freely available.

Best bet is to tag along with like minded souls and you will soon get introduced to some nice routes, seek out your local LRC and attend a meet or two, quite often the content of these meets revolves arounds maps and beer :D of which I tend to enjoy the later so miss the maps altogether :rolleyes:

My 2p ;)

Strange Rover
8th Sep 2005, 12:12
To be fair I am slowly building up my little portfolio of lanes,
As I said at start it was just a observation...

From what I know of the wayfinder they seem to have their own map co-ordinates that do not match O/S maps, I have 4 maps of north wales (O/S) and am slowly marking up lanes.

I hope to drive them in small groups in the winter when weather is crap and its a nice day out, if I want to go mad I go to a pay'n'play site.

jeff
18th Sep 2005, 19:01
just bought some os maps made myself a member of glass signed up to wayfinder so i will put grid ref on maps then just need somone to go laning with

non damaging to start

manthing
18th Sep 2005, 20:22
From what I know of the wayfinder they seem to have their own map co-ordinates that do not match O/S maps, I have 4 maps of north wales (O/S) and am slowly marking up lanes.


nah they use the standard grids thet all OS maps use, and the letters
eg SK 333999.???

way I use it is to find an area you are interested in on streetmap (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/default.stm) and then when you have the area look below "ask " and in the bottom of the blue box is this sentance-"Click here to convert/measure coordinates" click the "here" link and this brings up a page with allsorts of usefull info on, the easy way is to transfer the LR into the "View Lanes by location" and enter a distance from that piont.

NewBloke
19th Sep 2005, 01:59
just bought some os maps made myself a member of glass signed up to wayfinder so i will put grid ref on maps then just need somone to go laning with

non damaging to start


Whereabout in the UK are you?

jeff
19th Sep 2005, 19:56
chesterfield derbyshire i have a 90 csw 300tdi

manthing
19th Sep 2005, 23:49
loverly area, :)
good truck, ;)
dont let anyone get you on Stanage Edge :eek: till youv'e ad some practice :D

jjsaul
20th Sep 2005, 00:33
loverly area, :)
good truck, ;)
dont let anyone get you on Stanage Edge :eek: till youv'e ad some practice :D

nowt wrong with stanage....

did that in a 110 with soggy springs and little previous offroading experience.... :D

diff guards etc recommended for that one though.

alankemp
19th Oct 2005, 12:27
Paul, if you are going to go laning, invest in a pda with memeorymap on it and a gps, join GLASS to access Wayfinder and download the lanes, you will be amazed. I thought I knew the lanes locally but have discovered loads of new ones since downloading them to my pc and Memorymap.