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SVENUK
12th Aug 2005, 09:42
Nows the time to earn some dosh to run your landies ;)

No agreement was reached in a meeting between the government and ATP on further subsidy granting. The mediation meeting which took place on Thursday saw the ATP requesting a further subsidy rise moving from the previously set Lm1.1 million to Lm1.7 million for bus-owners while the government stuck with the October 2004 agreement of Lm1.1 million and did not show that any change would be accepted.

Meanwhile the first effects of the dispute will appear later on Friday as most of the bus routes will stop operating at 2000CEST. The only routes which will continue functioning are routes 11, 19, 22, 45, 48, 49, 62 and 70.

It is said that bus routes and trips will go back to schedule on Saturday and Sunday but route 75, which normally operates trips from all over the country directly towards St. Luke’s Hospital will cease working on a widespread basis and continue to run just from Valletta.
ATP president Victor Spiteri added that as from Tuesday a total of 40 ATP employees would be dismissed gradually. The majority of theses workers are inspectors and ticket sellers.

Bus owners had come close to a bus strike in the first week of July over the subsidies issue. Action, however, was suspended after the parties accepted the intervention of two mediators.

Bus owners received a 5c increase in fares since last January after the measure was announced in the last Budget.
The Association said that the current situation was not sensible as it could not keep on operating at a loss or just to provide a service to the public. Furthermore the Lm1.1 million subsidies the Government was ready to provide were not enough. These realities are cornering the ATP into taking unwanted action such as the dismissal of employees and the removal of the less viable routes.
I wish our bus fares were as cheap over here :(

theBaptist
12th Aug 2005, 10:14
cheap prices ... cheap service m8 :(

buses suck here .... (well actually they blow great black fumes of death ...) .... they dont keep to time schedules / most drivers are ********s / bus stops are useless as drivers stop in the middle of the road anyway come rain or shine / some buses are bone shakers (Series vehicles are a luxury compared to the old buses) etc etc .... :D

havnt been on a bus lor the last 15 or so years i guess .....

SVENUK
12th Aug 2005, 10:49
[QUOTE=theBaptist]cheap prices ... cheap service m8 :( some buses are bone shakers (Series vehicles are a luxury compared to the old buses) etc etc .... :D QUOTE]

Could be something to do with he state of the roads :eek:

Next time we come down i wish we could bring the discovery or drive it down-i wish ,it's a long way :D
Got to be better then that b***dy Marunti i hired

Shame you have such high inport duties, you would a killing hiring out newer 4x4's

David

olo
13th Aug 2005, 10:03
the new buses aint that bad, problem is that with a guy like me you just dont fit in the seat (in all senses, width and lenght :( )

SVENUK
13th Aug 2005, 22:46
Like i said ,nought wrong with the buses they need to improve the roads. :D

landymaniac
14th Aug 2005, 07:25
if they improve the roads we won't enjoy our land rovers on the so called roads:D

cil111
14th Aug 2005, 09:10
:) :).. Malta buses heheh what a nice joke

cil111
14th Aug 2005, 09:12
bah maniac... enjoy land rovers on these roads...

changing radius arm bushes after a year on a vehicle not used offroad is called enjoying yourself... i enjoy myself stuck in rut or with the vehicle on the side mela going thump thump on a road... i expect that the roads are decent myself especially when i pay Lm 150 a year as road tax!!!!!!

ah olo the buses are made in Korea and it seems that the seats were made for koreans as well.. i barely fit myself and i am nowhere as big or tall as you are!plus they are plastic and mighty uncomfortable...

olo
14th Aug 2005, 23:09
can say that again cil! i feel as if am tryin to sit in a can of sardines (thats still full obviously) i tend to just stay standing up in them, at least i might smack my head only not beat myself to death whilst tryin to get home.

SVENUK
15th Aug 2005, 16:16
"The ATP concluded by saying that these realties were forcing the association to take undesirable measures such the dismissal of employees and the removal of the less viable routes."

Seems you lot over there have the same problems as we have
Lack of use leads to withdrawel of services to concentrate on the more profitable route.When the subsidies were withdrawn and the routes put out to tender we had the same thing happen .Some places get one service a day/some 2-3 times a week
those that suffer are the poor/old/imfirmed who rely on the bus services.

I would not complain to much about the state of the buses because you 'll lose them like we have.
David

buzz
16th Aug 2005, 06:16
The bus owners are eventualy digging thier own grave, prices have continued to rise and it is no longer worth taking the bus if you have a car. The only advantage is going into Valletta and doing away with having to park.

The only time I will use public transport is if my car breaks down. :rolleyes:

SVENUK
17th Aug 2005, 09:25
I must admit Paul that whilst i was on holiday there were too many buses on certain routes and could do with cutting down. But i suppose they are all trying their luck out on the more lucrative/ profitable routes
David

buzz
17th Aug 2005, 10:52
I must admit Paul that whilst i was on holiday there were too many buses on certain routes and could do with cutting down. But i suppose they are all trying their luck out on the more lucrative/ profitable routes
David


Agree'd there too.
The drvers even refuse to use the Aircon on the new buses too....lets just say there's lots that can be done to improve the service.


Oh and I wish you luck in the court case, I hope it won't drag on as we need to catch up on a few beers later on!!..... ;) ;)

olo
18th Aug 2005, 09:02
certain routes though need alot of buses, for instance the 62 is always packed with people and thats the only route that leaves every 10 minutes as far as i know. dunno bout winter though but summer definately they need that amount of buses.